I can't believe it.

Max has asked me to move in with him.

I mean, you practically live with each other already, but that's great.

Did you hear that, Joe?

Yes, thanks for letting us know.

I see you've updated your universal credit claim.

Now you're going to be living together.

If you're telling other people about a change in your circumstances, tell us too to avoid a penalty. Search tell DWP. Hello and welcome to the

Retro Hour podcast episode number 162, your weekly dose of retro gaming and technology news with me Dan Wood and me And me Ravi Abbott. Now, on today's show, we're going to be taking you back to a simpler time. A time where guys had massive perms, where the manager would drive the guys home and have a plate of chips afterwards. He'd lock them in a room, forced them to drink champagne before the cup final. When he went to see a game of football, it was probably about what, five quid to get

in probably. He went through the turnstiles and he had the football rattle standing up in the

stands. We're talking about football in the 80s today. Weeing in a bottle.

I think the tallest were generally like a bucket, weren't they? At best. So today the reason we're talking about football in the 80s is because we're going to be talking about one of the most famous and earliest football management simulators.

Yeah, so this is football manager and it's not the one that you see in the shops now, Football Manager 2019.

But this is the original one.

And we talk about the kind of development of all the different aspects of the game.

You know, this was a really hard kind of game to put out there.

You know, how did you make something exciting?

It's seen as if you're not into football, not that interesting. But Dan, he's not that much of a football guy. He absolutely loved the interview today, didn't you? This interview is so fascinating. I mean, for me, I mean, like you said, I've never been a real big football fan. I mean, my family were, you know, my dad and my uncle. And I remember, like, you know, Saturday afternoons watching St Saint and Grievesy on TV and we go to

football matches. I did go to a few as a kid. I always loved the atmosphere of it. And I mean,

I actually do prefer playing probably video game football to watching it on TV, to be honest.

Yeah, yeah. I used to get, like, go to matches and stuff with my family and everything. But then

I really got into it, like, just near university period

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