The Incomparable, number 162, October 2013.

Welcome back to The Incomparable podcast.

I'm your host, Jason Snell, and we are live in a room with people in Portland, Oregon.

We're at the XOXO Festival, which is a celebration of

indie content creators. And I'm joined in this room by three guests, frequent visitor to the podcast.

Glenn Fleischman has returned. Hello, Glenn. Hello. I'm currently bearing sleeves of tattoos.

As I've been in Portland for three days, they just spontaneously form on my arm. It's like magic. It's crazy.

That's what the air in Portland does. Greg Noss, who only appears on a comparable podcast that

are recorded live because he doesn't know how to use a computer is here. Hi, Greg. Hi, Jason. It's good

to have you thank you

and special guest Jeff Carlson joins us is this your first time have you been on I have been on

I have been on I am you run without me right you were on the Aaron the Aaron Sorkin episode that's right

yeah I took your place so I am also only a live performer. Only, that's right. Not on the computer.

You're Amish, basically. I can bring my own equipment. I don't understand these things that are in

front of me that are stealing my voice. Yeah, I know. They are. Sorry, I've stolen parts of your soul.

That's just how it is. There's nothing left. So I thought we would talk about, in the spirit of XOXO, XO, I thought we would talk about indie projects and culture

and people creating things outside the bounds of sort of mainstream media distribution.

And I'm not sure what kind of stuff you guys are consuming

that goes outside, outside those bounds. I've got a couple of thoughts, but I'm wondering,

Glenn, you do a whole podcast about people who create new things and different things, the new

disruptors. Do you have some favorite indie culture stuff that you consume? Well, I've got both

general and specific.

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