This is popular front a podcast focused on the niche details of modern warfare and

underreported conflict with me Jake Hanrahan. Today we're speaking to Joe Kasabian. He's an

author Afghan war veteran and the host of the Lions led by Donkeys podcast he's also an Armenian he currently lives in

Armenia and he's going to be talking to us about the situation where

Azerbaijan in the last couple of days has launched what is an invasion of Armenia.

Some people are calling it border clashes.

They attacked many different areas on the eastern border of Armenia,

and now they're actually inside Armenia proper not in the disputed area inside

Armenia they've taken about seven kilometers of land so this is an invasion. If you like what

we're doing support us at patreon at patreon at the point.

September 12th couple days ago now

Azerbaijan launched a full-on attack all along the eastern border of Armenia.

I just want to stay as well for anyone listening this isn't Artsak or Karabak, this is Armenia's sovereign border, which is recognised by pretty

much every country and earth.

This isn't a war over contested land.

This is something completely different.

Yeah, tell us what happened. Late night, September 12,

Azerbaijan starts attacking Armenia. Yeah, weirdly the only country on earth that I'm aware of

that does not recognize their

international borders is Pakistan for some reason but yeah they don't

recognize Armenia as a country nobody's entirely sure why they do love Turkey that might

be why yeah but yeah they started shelling

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