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The Daily

‘1619,’ Episode 4: How the Bad Blood Started

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2019

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Today on “The Daily,” we present Episode 4 of “1619,” a New York Times audio series hosted by Nikole Hannah-Jones. You can find more information about it at nytimes.com/1619podcast. Black Americans were denied access to doctors and hospitals for decades. From the shadows of this exclusion, they pushed to create the nation’s first federal health care programs. Guests: Jeneen Interlandi, a member of The New York Times’s editorial board and a writer for The Times Magazine, and Yaa Gyasi, the author of “Homegoing.” Background reading:“One hundred and fifty years after the freed people of the South first petitioned the government for basic medical care, the United States remains the only high-income country in the world where such care is not guaranteed to every citizen,” Jeneen Interlandi writes.The Times Magazine asked 16 writers to bring pivotal moments in African-American history to life. Read Yaa Gyasi’s story “Bad Blood” here.The “1619” audio series is part of The 1619 Project, a major initiative from The Times observing the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. Read more from the project here.

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0:00.0

My uncle Eddie was my favorite uncle. He was my dad's younger brother, not that much older than me and he was a complete

0:08.5

Jokester and cut up. He was the one who was always playing some

0:13.5

Practical joke on you or who in some way Joyce felt was taking things too far because he just thought everything was funny

0:19.9

So for instance if you fell asleep in his house

0:22.2

He might light a match and stick it between your toes and let it burn down to wake you because he thought it was funny

0:28.4

He called me bird

0:31.5

Which was my nickname and we like to listen to music together

0:36.3

We like to watch TV together. He was never mad

0:40.0

I never remember him ever disciplining me for anything and in fact

0:44.3

When my father and I would fight when I was a teenager

0:46.5

I would sometimes pack my bag and go stay with him for a couple of days and he would never kind of sell me out

0:59.5

When I got into college at the University of Notre Dame

1:01.9

I think the only person proud of them my mom and dad was my uncle Ed and

1:06.8

When I graduated my uncle picked out this all red outfit from head to toe

1:13.1

He had on a red hat and a red shirt and red pants and these red gators and

1:18.6

He was determined that he was going to show

1:22.0

Everyone how proud he was of me by outdressing everyone at the graduation and he certainly did

1:30.4

So we just were always very close whenever I would come home

1:34.2

We would get breakfast together at morgues and just talk about life and all he would tell me all the time was how proud he was of me

1:45.6

Besides being a lot of fun my uncle Ed was also one of the hardest working men that I knew

1:51.8

He worked a lot of jobs doing things like

1:55.2

Working in animal processing plants and the last job that he had was roofing and he did roofing for a lot of years

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