161. Talking Openly About Pregnancy Loss, With Dr. Loree Johnson
Marriage and Martinis
Adam Silverstein
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 March 2021
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
One part of the mental load that Danielle spoke about in episode #159 is all the emotional and physical burdens that are inherent in being born female; the expectations of just carrying on with life even though we may be suffering from exacerbated periods, issues getting pregnancy, being pregnant, losing a pregnancy, postpartum....the list goes on and on. Marriage and Martinis is starting a series delving into all these aspects of life and how they affect individuals, couples, and other close relationships. In the first episode in this series, Danielle and Adam sat down with Dr. Loree Johnson, to discuss all things related to pregnancy loss, including topics of guilt, shame, misconceptions, grief, and hopefully, healing. Dr. Loree helps people overcome the emotional challenges that come with infertility, including pregnancy loss and emotional trauma. Some issues the three of them discuss are
- How to best support someone who has experienced pregnancy loss (what to say and cliches to avoid)
- Understanding the guilt oftentimes felt by the mother after losing a pregnancy
- Why grieving a loss is natural and normal no matter how far into the pregnancy it occurs
- Why finding and working with the right doctor is absolutely essential
- Ways we grieve throughout the day that might not manifest as grief
Dr. Loree Johnson can be found at drloreejohnson.com and on instagram @drloreejohnson
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, welcome to my adventure martinis. |
| 0:30.1 | Adam here is Danielle. Hello, I just started that a little bit. Did that come across? |
| 0:35.3 | You said really happy. I do. Yeah. Oh, sorry. No, it's good because I cleaned the basement |
| 0:41.0 | today. So I'm very happy. You know what? I enjoy myself. I didn't like kind of |
| 0:45.0 | at my AirPods on. Yeah. I was listening to a podcast, cleaning out all the crap in the basement. |
| 0:49.9 | Yeah, and I was scrubbing the toilets because we have two boys who are 12 at nine and still |
| 0:58.8 | their aim is, I just don't know when it gets better. Yeah. But the whole, the bathrooms smelled like |
| 1:04.8 | fraternity house bathrooms. We're going to be doing a series of around four episodes. I |
| 1:10.9 | not sure yet if it's going to be four or five episodes, definitely four over the next few months. |
| 1:15.6 | And we're really delving into the journey of trying to have kids. Everything from infertility to |
| 1:21.5 | conceiving, pregnancy complications are just the toll pregnancy takes on so many that isn't really |
| 1:27.7 | acknowledged. And then we're going to pregnancy loss, the anxiousness, the emotional and physical |
| 1:33.2 | effects that surround all of it. Just as individuals between partners with all of our other relationships, |
| 1:41.5 | there's, you know, reproductive mental health is a term that I do not think I had ever heard of when |
| 1:49.6 | I started trying to have kids. No, we talked about that in the episode. Yeah, I just, I don't, |
| 1:56.0 | and if it was a term, my doctors never mentioned it to me. I didn't, you know, there was still such |
| 2:03.2 | a stigma and shame around all the mental health stuff, especially that I just experienced like, |
| 2:12.0 | you know, a gazillion times when I was pregnant and trying to get pregnant and after I, you know, |
| 2:19.2 | pregnancy loss. So I'm just so grateful that this is becoming a topic that is really we're trying to |
| 2:28.1 | rid the shame and the stigma around it. And my hope is that all partners, regardless of gender, |
| 2:33.5 | will listen to these episodes and talk about them whether or not this is something you're currently |
| 2:38.8 | going through. It's just, it's interesting because at one point during this episode, you said that |
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