What's up guys we this week we have well I thought it was going to be Mike Riley but it's

Mike Riley Joel and John from Cape Cod panel they are guys don't have last names only

Mike Riley does well they do have last names but I I know I would butcher them so I'm

just going to it's Mike Joel and John from Cape Cod panel that's their panelization

company in Cape Cod obviously and they have built a panel company based on the needs

that they have found in their otherwise framing company and if you guys are an avid listener

you know that we've had many of discussions on penalization the pros and cons and John

what do you think do you think they answered the cons is good as they answered the pros

they are they changed my perspective and I'm on board I'm ordering my first penalized

house soon whoa and stay tuned for the middle of the podcast when John lands a big job

and literally we have to we have to derail the podcast for a moment to talk about it guys

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I've been trying to get you on this podcast for a couple months you wanted to do it in

person then the world said no and basically through COVID at us and you finally committed

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