The following is a conversation with Jason Callicanas, who's an entrepreneur, investor,

author of Angel, how to invest in technology startups, and as many people may know, he's

a fun, brilliant, long-time podcast host of this week in startups, and co-host of the

All-In podcast with Chimath Palhaapatya, David Sachs, and David Friedberg, who all happen

to be poker buddies and self-proclaimed besties. The result is always a great listen to

both the love and the heated disagreements.

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real-world finance in the past few months. To give you a bit of context on the side, I've

studied trading from an algorithmic trading perspective as a machine learning and a game

theory problem often on for a few years in undergrad and grad school. I found the distributed,

complex system aspect of finance and economics in general fascinating. But now, I find

even more fascinating the human side of the whole thing, ideas of greed, power, freedom,

and truth. Wall Street Bets, Robin Hood, and the whole beautiful mess around this topic

allows us to have great conversations about human nature and the systems that underlie

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