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I know you just want to hear your show, but this won't take long.

I'm Miles, the producer of Radio 4's tricky podcast.

And it works like this.

Four people from across the UK meet up, and without a present of breathing down their necks,

talk about issues they really care about.

Because that book is quite complicated for a lot of people,

and it's okay to be against it, but not to shame someone because of their profession.

Across the series, we'll hear anger, shock, and even the odd laugh.

Another thing that really gets to me is when people say,

I know what we need to do.

I know what black people.

Shut up.

You don't like that sort of thing, that's not how it works.

Nobody knows if you knew you would have done it.

Discover more conversations like this by searching tricky on BBC Sounds.

I'm not talking about myself, I'm the least interesting person alive.

So it's all about other people this week, all about them.

Is it? Wow!

After I've talked about the accident I had, which got me to A&E, yes it will be.

The BBC is proud to bring you, fortunately, with Fee and Jen,

another collection of the random and unrelated, and Fee Glover and Jen Garby,

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