This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So hello everybody.

I'm here with Richard Rowland.

For those who are involved in the symbolic world, you have seen him around.

You've heard him.

He's written articles for the symbolic world blog.

He's involved in the community in different ways.

He's also the co-host of the Amundsul podcast now, is involved with Father Andrew in different

projects. I would say he's involved in this, really he's completely aligned with what we're

trying to do, which is try to help people understand traditional thinking in a modern way,

help them understand how we can re-embody, relive these stories.

And one of the exciting things that I found is that I've had this like secret dream

for many years, which is to restore what we call the universal history, the idea that the ancient peoples had a common history that they shared,

that they kind of had different perspectives on, and that like in the Middle Ages, everybody

was just part of this massive story. And I've always had this dream of kind of helping people

understand why it's important and why it matters. And I've discovered in Richard really like a partner, we were both texting away at each other,

amazed at how we're excited about the same seemingly obscure things,

but that are not at all obscure because they really can help ground us in a common narrative.

So Richard is a philologist. He's studied ancient languages.

He's also very smart, works in data science, but I'm looking really forward to our discussion today.

So maybe Richard, you can tell us a little bit about the things you've done around us and then we can

dive right into the subject. Yeah. So I have, as you mentioned, I've written a couple of articles for symbolic world.

I have a couple more that are in the pipe, but I just keep not, you know, finishing them.

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