Welcome to May is for Mamas when every episode in the month of May is dedicated to all you

mamas listening with topics and conversations specifically designed for you.

Today we have the privilege of hearing from my friend and mama mentor Renee Swope, who is a wife

and a mama of three and an author and speaker.

And she loves Jesus so much. And we are going to be talking

all about her latest book, A Confident Mom, which is the perfect fit for my book club and

May is for mamas. You can get all the details about the updated 22 book club at nancy ray.com

slash book club, but I am thrilled to talk about one of

those books today with the author. And Renee is just such a treasure of a friend to me. She's so wise.

And I love that she is ahead of me in the motherhood journey. She has so much to offer.

You are going to love our

conversation i can't wait to share it with you today you're listening to work and play

with nancy ray episode 160 much of our lives can be divided into two categories, work and play. Simply put, that is where

our life and our legacy take place. This is a podcast all about learning to work and play well,

which leads to a healthy soul and a fulfilling life. Renee, I am so grateful that you are here.

Welcome to the Work and Play podcast.

Well, I am so glad to be here, although I wish we could be together.

But thank you so much.

I've been looking forward to our conversation.

That would be the only thing that would make this better better is if we were in the same room right now.

But I know, I just love hearing your voice. And I'm so grateful to just connect with you and hear from you.

And before we jump in to all of your wisdom that you have to share, I would love for you to just tell anyone listening a little bit

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