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David Hoffman and we're here to help you become more bankless. David, this is an incredible episode. We've been waiting a long time for this. We are talking with Nick Carter today. What did we cover?

So much, so much. Nick Carter is always a valuable person to get on any podcast,

particularly in the way that Nick clearly thinks

and thinks differently from most people in this space

that get caught up in the tribalism, caught up in the Maxi warfare,

something that I would definitely say I do from time to time.

So getting Nick's perspective on here

and making sure that when we make comparisons, when we make claims,

that they are grounded in something that is useful outside of crypto rather than just comparing,

you know, crypto system A to crypto system B.

Nick's perspective really makes sure that we are anchoring these things in time in

relation to the systems that have come before crypto and using the lessons of historical financial mechanisms to compare and

contrast mechanisms that we find today in the crypto land.

Yeah, and I think Nick would definitely consider himself a bit pointer but he'd probably put an asterisk by that and I don't think Nick would consider himself at all a

Bitcoin maximalist he's he's very open in terms of ideas. One of the first questions we asked

him was whether he identified with the Ethereum community and with the D-Fi movement.

And his answer to that was really interesting and then we talked some more about stable coins which has been a topic I've wanted to pick Nick's brain on for a while, whether particularly staple coins on Ethereum and there's over 8 billion now dollars worth of stable coins on Ethereum, whether those are good or bad for Ethereum.

Getting his take on that was super interesting.

And then, of course, we got into settlement assurances.

Really, I feel like this episode tied a lot of other episodes together.

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