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Hello and welcome to Empire with me Anita Arnan.

And me, William Trimple.

Now we left you in the last episode of this podcast with the Bell's Chaiming Midnight

as both India and Pakistan sever their relationship and break apart

into two distinctly new countries. You heard all the drama and the characters leading up to it were immense.

We've talked about Gandhi, you've heard about Mount Batten,

Jinnar. The question is though what about the people who then had to live their lives after this Fisher was created and we have the very best guest to talk about

We most certainly do kavittipuri?

Or kavittipuri we should call you kavitapuri. Or kavitapuri.

We have this whole discussion about, so let's just explain this.

Those of you who aren't privy to are bubbling before we actually record this.

We would properly say in India,

Kavita Puri, I'd be Anita Arnand, but you are Kavita Puri because you are she's also an

excellent broadcaster who works at the BBC and did a...

One of the best.

Well, I agree.

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