Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast with Dr Scott Barry Kaufman where we give

you insights into the mind brain behavior and creativity.

Each episode will feature a new guest who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater

understanding of yourself, others, and the world

we live in.

Thanks for listening and enjoy the podcast. Today we got Heidi Grand Halverson.

Heidi is a social psychologist, speaker and author who studies the science of motivation and

communication.

She is the Associate Director of the Motivation Science Center at the Columbia Business School

and Senior Consultant for the Neuro Leadership Institute.

She is the author of such a seen books as nine things successful people do differently.

Succeed how we can reach our goals. Focus, use different ways of seeing the world for success and

influence, which was co-authored with E. Tori Higgins and most recently

no one understands you and what to do about it. Thanks Heidi.

Thanks, Heidi. Thanks, Scott.

That was one of the longest intros I've done so far on this. Yeah. Yeah, well, because you gave like not only the book titles, but the subtitle too, so you went the whole, you went whole hog.

I appreciate.

I think the subtitles add good value in all sentences.

They do.

But this is my favorite book title, the new one,

because it just makes me laugh every time I say it it makes

other people laugh too no one understands you and what to do about it is so it's like I

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