16 - Brazil, Bernie, and the Fight Against Fascism (w/ Michael Brooks & Leandro Demori)
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Bernie 2020
4.8 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 23 July 2019
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Briahna looks at the imprisonment of former Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, whose conviction on corruption charges cleared the way for the victory last year of far-right President Jair Bolsonaro. In June, Bernie called for Lula's release after the Intercept reported that the head judge in Lula's case - now Minister of Justice in Bolsonaro's government - had collaborated with prosecutors.
Michael Brooks of The Michael Brooks Show explains why Lula was such a transformational and popular leader. Leandro Demori, one of the Intercept reporters who broke the story in June, gives us an inside view of events that are still convulsing Brazilian politics. Finally, we zoom out to see why Bernie's approach to foreign policy is uniquely equipped to combat a wave of right-wing authoritarianism around the world.
Michael Brooks on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_michaelbrooks
The Michael Brooks Show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh2UY1hxlMr4_7Az_iQ82HQ
Leandro Demori on Twitter: https://twitter.com/demori
And at the Intercept: https://theintercept.com/staff/leandrodemori
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Brazil is the fifth largest country in the world by land area. |
| 0:04.0 | And unlike our somewhat sparsely populated neighbor to the north, |
| 0:08.0 | which ranks second in size but 38th in population, |
| 0:12.0 | it's also the fifth most populous country. |
| 0:15.0 | It's the world's ninth largest economy and is home to one of the most important ecosystems on the planet, |
| 0:20.0 | the Amazon rainforest. It's also one of the most important ecosystems on the planet, the Amazon |
| 0:21.5 | rainforest. |
| 0:22.5 | It's also one of the most racially diverse countries in the world, with the largest black |
| 0:26.4 | population outside of Africa. |
| 0:28.4 | America is number two. |
| 0:30.4 | But demographic truisms are not why American newspapers broke from their relative indifference |
| 0:35.3 | to international affairs to focus on Brazil last year. |
| 0:38.3 | Nor are they why we're talking about Brazil today. |
| 0:41.3 | The recent American eyes returned on Brazil last year was a national election with eerie parallels to the one we went through in 2016. |
| 0:49.3 | It resulted in the election of Jaya Bolsonaro, a man sometimes referred to as the Donald Trump of Brazil. |
| 0:58.0 | Bolsonaro has been dubbed the Trump of the Tropics because of the rhetoric and policies the two leaders share. |
| 1:03.0 | In 2014, he argued with a lawmaker and after pushing her yelled, |
| 1:07.0 | I would not rape you because you're not worthy of it. |
| 1:10.0 | In a 2011 interview with Playboy, he said he'd rather his son die in a car accident than be gay. |
| 1:16.2 | These red outcasts will be banished from our homeland. |
| 1:19.7 | It will be a cleansing never seen in Brazilian history. |
| 1:23.2 | The comparison works in some ways, but not in others. |
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