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forward slash cosmic skeptic. Oh, Welcome. Welcome back everybody to the Cosmic Skeptic podcast. Today I have the real

privilege of being joined by Dr Alex Hirschaft.

Dr Hirschaft is a Holocaust survivor

who after finding safety in the United States

gained a PhD in inorganic chemistry,

and as if that wasn't enough of a reason already

to have him on the podcast, he's also an animal rights activist and co-founder and president of the Farm Animal Rights Movement, which is the US's oldest organization devoted exclusively to promoting the rights of animals

not to be raised for food, even beating Peter by four years.

So Dr Hirschaft, thank you so much for giving us the time to come on the podcast.

It's my pleasure. I've been looking forward to it.

Well that's fantastic to hear. As my listeners and viewers will know.

For the past two years or so, I've been talking

almost ad nauseum about animal rights.

And as I just said to you a moment ago, off camera,

I've tended to take quite a rationalistic approach

to things looking at it through the lens of philosophy and ethics, but there's also

a very strong emotive side to the story of many animal rights activists that I

think needs to be heard.

And when I heard about yours, it was just the obvious choice

for broadcasting on the podcast.

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