1596 Joey Santore and David Daley + News & Clips
Stand Up! with Pete Dominick
Pete Dominick
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2026
⏱️ 91 minutes
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My Conversation with Joey starts at 34 mins and Dave and I get going around 1:07
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CONCRETE BOTANY: THE ECOLOGY OF PLANTS IN THE AGE OF HUMAN DISTURBANCE, by Joey Santore.
Joey, a citizen scientist and creator of Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't, delivers a raw, relentlessly smart, and eye-opening takedown of the ecological destruction caused by modern civilization. He's spent years documenting the plants that survive in the most disturbed corners of our built environment - rail corridors, brownfields, freeway margins - and translating what they reveal about ecological disruption in a way anyone can understand. His big social media following loves him for his often foul-mouthed honesty, straight-forward botany videos and ecological explainers.
Concrete Botany: The Ecology of Plants in the Age of Human Disturbance, brings it alltogether. Part ecological narrative and part call‑to‑arms, it offers a grounded look at the plants of the Anthropocene, what their resilience tells us about the moment we're living in, and why ecological literacy starts with noticing the species growing right outside our doors. Joey's focus on disturbed landscapes offers a fresh, accessible way into conversations about biodiversity, invasive species, and the ecological consequences of human‑caused disruption.
David Daley is a senior fellow for FairVote and the author of Ratf**ked: The True Story Behind the Secret Plan to Steal America's Democracy, which helped spark the recent drive to reform gerrymandering. Dave's second book, Unrigged: How Americans Are Battling Back to Save Democracy, chronicles the victories and defeats in state efforts to reform elections and uphold voting rights. A frequent lecturer and media source about gerrymandering, he is the former editor-in-chief of Salon.com, and the former CEO and publisher of the Connecticut News Project. He is a digital media fellow at the Wilson Center for the Humanities and the Grady School of Journalism at the University of Georgia. His work has appeared in the New Yorker, The Washington Post, The Guardian, New York magazine, the Atlantic, the Boston Globe, Rolling Stone, Details, and he's been on CNN and NPR. When writing for the Hartford Courant, he helped identify Mark Felt as the "Deep Throat" source for Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello, it is Thursday, and I have two great guests joining me today. I wanted to catch up with David Daly, a fair vote about getting an update. I'm so confused with all of what's happening, the machinations around gerrymandering, especially as a result of the gutting of the Voting Rights Act. So I reached out to Dave Daly, and we caught up yesterday. |
| 0:23.5 | You could have watched that live on YouTube or Substack, |
| 0:25.7 | but that conversation begins at an hour and seven minutes. |
| 0:29.4 | First, I've got a first timer today. |
| 0:31.9 | Fascinating guy, really interesting, very funny, different type of interview that I thoroughly enjoyed. |
| 0:38.2 | His name is Joey Santori, and he's written a book called Concrete Botany, the Ecology of Plants in the Age of Human Disturbance. |
| 0:47.2 | You might not think you're interested in plants, in ecology. |
| 0:50.5 | I guarantee this guy makes you interested in it. |
| 0:53.1 | I guarantee he's a huge YouTube star. |
| 0:55.2 | Many of you already know who he is. |
| 0:56.8 | But I hope that you listen to my conversation with Joey. |
| 0:59.3 | It begins at 34 minutes. |
| 1:02.2 | Happy Thursday to you. |
| 1:03.9 | It's Hangout Night. |
| 1:05.0 | I hope to see you tonight at 8 p.m. |
| 1:07.2 | If you're a paid subscriber, if not, sign up now and join us. I'll try to invite a special |
| 1:13.4 | guest through. It's either Dean Blundell or maybe somebody else. A lot of people showed up last |
| 1:19.2 | week for Atima Omarah. And so we'll try to do that again tonight. Hope to see you at 8 p.m. |
| 1:25.4 | Also, thank you for any ideas on the show format or constructive |
| 1:29.8 | criticism. I got a couple of notes on Patreon on the Patreon page. People made comments. |
| 1:35.6 | And I will share them with you to encourage you to send constructive criticism. I do like it |
| 1:42.3 | as much as I say I do. I want to get better. I want the show to get better. I want to be better. Bring it. No matter it. Roast me. I'm all right with it. I can take it. I promise you. All right. So that is the opening. I think that's all I wanted to say here at the top. Thank you for all the ideas on show format. I'll get a survey out to you soon. |
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