#159: Remembering the Victims in Escape At Dannemora

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, the Real Crime Profile Team (Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti) focuses on Deputy Kevin Tarsia, Charles Perreault and William Rickerson, the victims who were brutally murdered by David Sweat and Richard Matt and the depictions of their crimes in Escape At Dannemora.

This episode was done in partnership with and is sponsored by SHOWTIME and the new Limited Event Series Escape At Dannemora, directed by Ben Stiller and starring Benicio Del Toro, Patricia Arquette, Paul Dano & Bonnie Hunt.

Based on bizarre but true events, Escape At Dannemora tells the story of two prisoners who broke out of a maximum-security prison in upstate New York and their twisted relationship with the female prison employee, who aided in their escape.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:07.0	This episode series was done in partnership with and sponsored by Showtime.
0:13.0	William Rickerson, he was 76 years old and was murdered on December 3, 1997.
0:20.0	Charles Peralt murdered February 20, 1998.
0:26.0	Deputy Kevin Tarsia, he was 36 years old and was murdered July 4, 2002.
0:33.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...
0:42.0	Laura Richards, former criminal behavioral analyst, and new Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
0:49.0	And I am Lisa Zambetti, casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds.
0:53.0	And here we are. This is the most important episode in my opinion.
0:57.0	Of this series of our coverage of the Showtime original series, Escape at Danimora.
1:04.0	Today we're going to talk about the victims of the crimes that put sweat and mat behind bars for the rest of their lives.
1:14.0	So episode 6 is a really important one where we get the reveal about what mat and sweat have actually done, their crimes, and the fact that they are such dangerous men.
1:24.0	So we want to pay tribute to the families of those who were murdered, but also to honour the names of those who were murdered and their lives.
1:35.0	I know with this particular show you can run the risk, can't you, of romanticising the characters that we can almost be rooting for them to escape.
1:44.0	Well, we know we do know that Brett Johnson and Michael Tolkien, this was important to them that we don't romanticise these offenders.
1:51.0	And I think that's the genius of the structure, why episode 6 is kind of perfectly placed.
1:58.0	Because if you remember in episode 5, these guys are on the run, they've just broken out.
2:03.0	And you expect the next episode to be about them getting caught or them trying to survive.
2:10.0	But no, in a genius way, we open with this standalone episode.
2:15.0	We flash back to sweat, mat, and tillie, before they all met each other and before they came to Clinton Correctional.
2:25.0	Well, I just want to add that there are different levels of depravity in life.
2:31.0	The crimes that they committed that ended up getting them put into a maximum security prison for life.
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