So this rhabdomilosis is pretty fucking serious.

I mean, and you keep persisting through it going back to buds with

the fucking rhabdo, which is a good way to get renal failure and die, right?

Right. Let's go. Welcome to Citizen, we've got a special guest today. Jeff Gum, forming Navy Seal, and

entrepreneur. How's it going? Going awesome.

Yeah good to hear that.

If anybody wants to pause and go look some of this shit up before they continue

listening to the rest of the interview,

it's Jeff and then gum like the chewing gum and you're the founder of Sungal Life which is not surprising to that a Navy Seal

started a clothing company with the shortest possible shorts

humanly allowed or legally allowed rather so we'll look that up and then check out

Forest Blue which you've heard about before from Rudy Ray is repairing coral and stuff like that.

But let's get into it.

So where'd you grow up?

I grew up in Pennsylvania actually on a dairy farm and lived there until I was 18 my family is still there and went to school in

Florida after that at UC. Oh word yeah so you're a national champion then huh?

Exactly exactly yeah we Yeah, so you're a national champion then, huh? Exactly, exactly.

Yeah, we didn't lose our conference like Alabama that year.

What kind of cows? Holstein or?

Dairy.

Black and white ones.

Oh, what the fuck are those?

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