159. Is NATO Prepared for a Russian Attack?
The Rest Is Classified
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🗓️ 21 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, |
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| 0:13.1 | Join the Declassified Club at the rest is classified.com. What does the threat from Russia look like if you're on its borders? |
| 0:28.8 | And our Western spies and governments agreed on how to confront it. |
| 0:32.9 | Well, welcome to the rest is classified. |
| 0:34.5 | I'm Gordon Carrera. |
| 0:36.0 | This time there's no David McCloskey. That's because I'm actually in Estonia, one of the Baltic states in its capital. |
| 0:42.5 | Tallinn, I'm here for a security conference at which officials, spy chiefs, other types, |
| 0:49.2 | are all meeting to try and look at some of the threats, particularly from Russia, some of the issues |
| 0:54.8 | around Ukraine, but also the NATO alliance, how it's getting on, what the relationships with |
| 1:00.2 | the Americans are like. I've been here actually chairing a panel with some of the spy chiefs |
| 1:05.8 | from the region. I'd love to tell you more about that, but I'm afraid that really is classified |
| 1:09.1 | because it was an off-the-record |
| 1:10.9 | panel. But I've spent a couple of days here also going down to close to the Russian border |
| 1:16.5 | for a military exercise called Spring Storm, watching Estonian Defence Forces work with French |
| 1:23.9 | troops who were there in some camouflage vehicles and some British troops who were |
| 1:30.8 | camped in the woods in some, I think, less glamorous conditions in the French, strangely enough, |
| 1:36.2 | using some sensor devices which were hidden in trees and which could detect using video |
| 1:43.2 | imagery, but also seismic activity, whether, for instance, |
| 1:46.1 | Russian troops might at one point go over the border, all part of this exercise. |
| 1:50.4 | And it's all a sign, really, that Estonia, the Baltic states are on the front line from the Russian threat. |
| 1:56.8 | I mean, very, very close. |
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