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The Rest Is Classified

159. Is NATO Prepared for a Russian Attack?

The Rest Is Classified

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🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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How worried are Baltic countries about the threat from Russia? Would the US protect its NATO allies from Putin? And what is happening on the Estonian border? Last weekend, Gordon headed to the annual Lennart Meri security conference in Estonia to speak with experts from across the world about the security challenges the region is currently facing. Listen as he speaks with journalists, former presidents, and former NATO intelligence analysts about what is happening across the Baltics. ------------------- Join the Declassified Club to go deeper into the world of espionage with exclusive Q&As, interviews with top intelligence insiders, regular livestreams, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, and weekly deep dives into original spy stories. Members also get curated reading lists, special book discounts, prize draws, and access to our private chat community. Just go to ⁠⁠⁠therestisclassified.com⁠⁠. ------------------- Email: ⁠⁠therestisclassified@goalhanger.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@restisclassified⁠ Video Editor: Joe Pettit Social Producer: Emma Jackson Assistant Producer: Alfie Rowe Producer: Becki Hills Head of History: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series,

0:09.0

first look at live show tickets, a weekly newsletter, and discounted books.

0:13.1

Join the Declassified Club at the rest is classified.com. What does the threat from Russia look like if you're on its borders?

0:28.8

And our Western spies and governments agreed on how to confront it.

0:32.9

Well, welcome to the rest is classified.

0:34.5

I'm Gordon Carrera.

0:36.0

This time there's no David McCloskey. That's because I'm actually in Estonia, one of the Baltic states in its capital.

0:42.5

Tallinn, I'm here for a security conference at which officials, spy chiefs, other types,

0:49.2

are all meeting to try and look at some of the threats, particularly from Russia, some of the issues

0:54.8

around Ukraine, but also the NATO alliance, how it's getting on, what the relationships with

1:00.2

the Americans are like. I've been here actually chairing a panel with some of the spy chiefs

1:05.8

from the region. I'd love to tell you more about that, but I'm afraid that really is classified

1:09.1

because it was an off-the-record

1:10.9

panel. But I've spent a couple of days here also going down to close to the Russian border

1:16.5

for a military exercise called Spring Storm, watching Estonian Defence Forces work with French

1:23.9

troops who were there in some camouflage vehicles and some British troops who were

1:30.8

camped in the woods in some, I think, less glamorous conditions in the French, strangely enough,

1:36.2

using some sensor devices which were hidden in trees and which could detect using video

1:43.2

imagery, but also seismic activity, whether, for instance,

1:46.1

Russian troops might at one point go over the border, all part of this exercise.

1:50.4

And it's all a sign, really, that Estonia, the Baltic states are on the front line from the Russian threat.

1:56.8

I mean, very, very close.

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