1583 Tim Wise + News & Clips
Stand Up! with Pete Dominick
Pete Dominick
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🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Tim Wise, whom scholar and philosopher Cornel West calls, "A vanilla brother in the tradition of (abolitionist) John Brown," is among the nation's most prominent antiracist essayists and educators. He has spent the past 25 years speaking to audiences in all 50 states, on over 1000 college and high school campuses, at hundreds of professional and academic conferences, and to community groups across the nation. He has also lectured internationally in Canada and Bermuda, and has trained corporate, government, law enforcement and medical industry professionals on methods for dismantling racism in their institutions.
Wise's antiracism work traces back to his days as a college activist in the 1980s, fighting for divestment from (and economic sanctions against) apartheid South Africa. After graduation, he threw himself into social justice efforts full-time, as a Youth Coordinator and Associate Director of the Louisiana Coalition Against Racism and Nazism: the largest of the many groups organized in the early 1990s to defeat the political candidacies of white supremacist and former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. From there, he became a community organizer in New Orleans' public housing, and a policy analyst for a children's advocacy group focused on combatting poverty and economic inequity. He has served as an adjunct professor at the Smith College School of Social Work, in Northampton, MA., and from 1999-2003 was an advisor to the Fisk University Race Relations Institute in Nashville, TN.
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| 0:00.0 | It was a pretend roast. |
| 0:01.6 | I said, our first lady, Melania, is here. |
| 0:03.7 | Look at her so beautiful. |
| 0:05.1 | Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow, |
| 0:08.2 | which obviously was a joke about their age difference |
| 0:14.8 | and the look of joy we see on her face every time they're together. |
| 0:18.8 | It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger |
| 0:22.9 | than I am. |
| 0:23.5 | It was not by any stretch of the definition a call to assassination, and they know that. |
| 0:30.0 | I've been very vocal for many years speaking out against gun violence in particular, |
| 0:34.3 | but I understand that the First Lady had a stressful experience over the weekend, and probably every weekend, is pretty stressful in particular. But I understand that the First Lady had a stressful experience over the weekend, |
| 0:38.0 | and probably every weekend, |
| 0:39.6 | is pretty stressful in that house. |
| 0:42.1 | And also, I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric |
| 0:45.1 | is something we should reject. |
| 0:46.8 | I do, and I think a great place to start |
| 0:49.0 | to dial that back |
| 0:50.0 | would be to have a conversation |
| 0:51.7 | with your husband about it. |
| 0:52.8 | Because... |
| 0:53.3 | By the way, I also should point out, |
| 1:01.0 | Donald Trump is allowed to say whatever he wants to say, |
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