Hello, whinabbers, my name is Jesse Meekham and this is podcast number 158 for You Need a Budget

where we teach you four rules to help you stop living paycheck to paycheck, get out of

debt and save more money. This podcast is about five months late, maybe six.

Wyanab enjoyed its 10 year anniversary in September of 2014. Back then, I was a new dad, a fairly new husband.

I've been married all year and a half at a time.

New dad, new baby.

The baby being the whole impetus for the budget even being

thought of as something that we could possibly sell.

And it was September of 2004 and I believe that's when I registered Union a Budget.com and got

started with this thing that we call Wineb for short. So this is me just kind of

looking back and being unbelievably grateful to all of you for sharing

Wineb with your friends and family for talking about it.

For those of you that came early early on, like one great kind

young woman whose email address I still remember and whom I had to refund, thank you for being the first purchaser of the software.

That gave me all of the confidence that I needed, even though I had to refund you because it didn't work on your computer

gave me all the confidence I needed to keep moving forward and

Thank you to all of those along the way that stuck with me as I learned how to do a lot of this stuff.

Thanks for those of you sticking with me now too because I'm still learning, but you can take a look at the website, the sales copy, the product, there were

lots of rough edges, and there were people that saw through the rough edges, saw the method, and saw that it was useful, that that

was effective.

And as I've grown with Wienab, I've recognized that the method is everything. Those four rules are everything.

The software just helps you implement the rules. The rules are the magic. And it's taken me years and years to learn that because you like to think that you build cool software

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