Hi everybody, welcome to home with Havala. We are continuing our author series. It's been an incredible series and we've gotten really good feedback about all of our

guests. I hope that you enjoyed Larry Sparks last week. He has been such an inspiration in the world of publishing and just think he's really encouraging to those of us that are a little bit more on the spirit led, you know, like crazy charismatic world. He's just a great, a great guy in that world and just has such an incredible heart.

So we've had a pretty incredible lineup and most of which the people I admire and as our guest today, but also I consider this guest one of my close friends.

And so today on the podcast, we have most incredible woman Lisa Bevere is with me. How you doing, Lisa?

I'm doing good. I'm just your older twin.

That's what it is. I don't think it's I know you have a twin that's your age. I'm just the age of twin. I'm the age.

True. You're my Italian looking sister. Yeah.

I do often feel that way when I'm with you. I'm like, this is what my Italian sibling would have been like if we had looked at

Italian and that I was Jean didn't take over. So dominant. I know. Lisa, thanks for jumping on here. Of course, you have many gifts.

Your mom of four boys. You run a ministry called messenger international out of Colorado. I don't know anybody who hasn't heard of you, but you're also a New York Times best selling author.

And you started out. I believe writing more than anything. Is that true? Did you start out writing more than speaking and all those other aspects of your life?

Yes, I actually started out with writing. So I didn't have to speak. That was my thing. I thought if I write someone will edit me, I will make sense. The books can travel and I can stay home and hide and never have to get up in front of an audience. That was my thought process.

Ah, jokes on you.

You travel the world.

Yeah, John explained to me after the fact that's not how it worked, but I didn't know what at the time.

How did you, when you start to write a book, what made you want to write? And then obviously there's a big journey toward writing a book and then becoming a consistent author and then a

Finch New York Times best selling author. How did this journey start for you?

You know, I think have a lot. I again, this you got to remember, I'm a lot older than you. So when I wrote my first book, all the Christian women books were ridiculous. In my opinion, there was one called the total woman. And it recommended

Stripping naked, wrapping yourself in saran wrap and meeting your husband at the door. Again, I feel like that would have been traumatic for John and not healthy, not healthy for me.

There were things about color me beautiful, whether you were an autumn winter spring. Yes.

Summer. And I was a reluctant winter. I had orange hair when I should have just left it the natural color. There were books about, you know, we all need to be what it was like create like

Book scrapping scrapping voice and drinking tea with with your children. And as a mother of four boys, like I'm sorry. Yes, they drank tea when they were vomiting. That was about the only time we did tea time, you know, unless I was a bribe.

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