158. Pam and Helen Hargan - Murder Suicide?

Murder With My Husband

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4.8 • 17K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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*this case involves discussion of suicide* https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder-suicide of mom and daughter, Pam and Helen Hargan. But was it really? Case Sources: Nbcwashington.com, “Police: Daughter Kills Mom, Self in McLean; Child Safe,” July 14, 2017, updated July 15, 2017 Nbcwashington.com, “Victim’s Boyfriend Gives Emotional Testimony in Murder-Suicide Hoax Trial,” by Julie Carey, March 9, 2022 Nbcwashington.com, “Virginia Woman Found Guilty of Killing Mother, Sister to Get New Trial,” by Julie Carey, November 9, 2022 Wtop.com, “Police investigate 2 dead bodies found in McLean home,” by Jennifer Ortiz, July 15, 2017 Wusa9.com, “McLean mother-daughter ‘murder-suicide’ may be a double murder,” by Peggy Fox, November 15, 2017, updated November 16, 2017 Wusa9.com, “Fairfax judge vacates double murder conviction of woman accused of killing mom and sister for money,” by Bruce Leshan, November 9, 2022 Cbsnews.com, 48 hours, “Odd crime scene leads to conflicting theories about the shooting deaths of Pam and Helen Hargan,”by CBS News, updated on November 10, 2022 Cbsnews.com, “Defense theory: Shooter used her toe to pull the trigger,” by Lauren A. White, November 10, 2022 Fox5dc.com/news, “Woman found guilty of murder after staging 2017 murder-suicide scene in Fairfax County,” by FOX 5 DC Digital Team, March 28, 2022 Lawandcrime.com, “Conviction Overturned for Woman Who Allegedly Killed Mom and Sister with a Rifle and Rearranged Their Bodies in Effort to Stage Slayings as Murder-Suicide,” by Colin Kalmbacher, November 10, 2022 People.com, “Murder-Suicide or Cold-Blooded Killing? Inside a Woman’s Alleged Plot to Kill Her Mom and Sister,” by KC Baker, February 6, 2020 Sportskeeda.com, “Where is Megan Hargan now? Charges explored ahead of new CBS 48 Hours episode,” by Nikita Mahato, October 1, 2022 Washingtonpost.com, “Va. Jury sentences woman to life in prison for killing mother, sister,” by Justin Jouvenal, March 28, 2022 Abc13 news, wset.com, “Police: Woman shoots mother, then herself in McLean home in apparent murder-suicide,” by Tom Roussey, July 14, 2017 Oxygen.com, “Virginia Woman On Trial In Mother, Sister’s Killings, Allegedy Staged Slayings as Murder-Suicide,” by Dorian Geiger, March 11, 2002 Yahoo.com, “Judge Vacates Conviction of Virginia Woman Found Guilty of Murdering Mother, Sister,” by Jax Miller, November 10, 2022 Newsweek.com, “Murder-Suicides Reach Record High,” by Khaleda Rahman, March 9, 2023 Crimeonline.com, “Daughter Mad At Mom For Not Sending $400K Kills Her & Younger Sister, Stages Scene to Look Like Murder-Suicide,” by Jacquelyn Gray, March 28, 2022 Dailymail.co.uk, “Aunt of woman who is standing trial for the murder of her mother and sister in a staged murder-suicide says she ‘feels sick every day’ and fears her niece’s final moments were ‘horrific,’” by Erica Tempesta, March 8, 2022 Fairfax County Police Department News, “Double Murder Suspect Arrives in Virginia; Arraignment set for Wednesday,” by FCPD Public Affairs Bureau, November 19, 2018 City-data.com, “McLean, Virginia” U.S. Census Bureau, McLean, Virginia Crimegrade.org Redfin.com Osti.gov, “Biography, Pamela D. Hansen Hargan, Vice President for Human Resources and Communications, Sandia National Laboratories” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everybody welcome back to our podcast. This is murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Moreland and I'm Garrett Moreland and he's a husband
0:06.4	No, my husband before we go over to Garrett's 10 seconds if you didn't catch this already
0:11.7	Binge is now a weekly podcast so we are dropping episodes every single week over there
0:18.0	So if you want to check it out again, that's just my solo podcast
0:22.4	Binge I know you will love it if you haven't listened already and if you do listen right now. Thank you. I love you so much
0:29.2	Okay, now we can do your 10 seconds. Well, I got a
0:33.7	a
0:35.5	a lot of suggestions for TV shows
0:37.6	Now I'm gonna slowly start going through them. Didn't you say you started one? I did start one so session
0:43.9	that was cool
0:45.9	I started that
0:47.1	Then you know, I'm just getting through it trying to get into it. So in okay so far
0:50.7	So I I get I didn't like look up what it was supposed to be about so it's like a little confused at first
0:56.4	I'm starting to understand a little bit more now. So that's been good so far. There's there's a ton. I got
1:02.0	I don't know I feel like there's probably like 500 different TV shows
1:05.5	So I'm excited to go through those and the other day I was sitting down and I was thinking about
1:10.1	how cool it would be just to
1:12.5	buy a
1:14.5	branch or
1:16.1	House just in the middle of nowhere and just
1:19.4	Live off your land and
1:21.9	Homestead. Yeah, like it sounds cool and theory
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