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🗓️ 6 November 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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This week, Clay’s conversation with favorite guest Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky about the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. All ratified between December 1865 and February 1870, these three key amendments are in some respects the second founding of the United States. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery. The 14th insisted on equal protection of all citizens of the United States, thus applying the Bill of Rights to the people of every state. And the 15th granted Black men 21 years old and older the right to vote. Unfortunately, all three were systematically undermined by the states of the old Confederacy, often with the support of the U.S. Supreme Court. We talk about birthright citizenship today, whether someone convicted of insurrection today would be ineligible to run for president, and whether the current trajectory of the Supreme Court is undermining the plain provisions of these key Constitutional Amendments.
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0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, and welcome to this podcast introduction to this week's program, which is 10 things about the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments with Dr. Lindsey Chervinsky in fascinating conversation, so why did we have the 13th, 14th and 15th |
0:16.0 | 13th abolishes slavery, the 15th gives black men the right to vote and the 14th has an equal protection and do process clause |
0:24.0 | it's meant to make sure that the bill of rights is applied in its fundamental ways equally across the country and not abrogated in certain states |
0:34.0 | in this case former Confederate states and it also of course has the birthright clause that anyone who is born in this country |
0:40.0 | period is a citizen of the United States so there's a lot of backlash against that in certain quarters |
0:48.0 | now you probably heard it on the Republican debate stage several people say yes we need to abolish the birthright citizenship clause |
0:56.0 | we are unusual in this if you're born in Sweden you don't have birthright citizenship |
1:00.0 | if you're born in Finland you don't have birthright citizenship |
1:04.0 | this is part of the great dream the great experiment you know what a wild and wonderful experiment |
1:12.0 | and truly for all the problems of the United States the idea of creating a polyglot nation with many ethnicities and religions |
1:20.0 | and source geographies people from all over the world who come here |
1:24.0 | and you know they do mostly blend in really quickly their children almost invariably speak English |
1:30.0 | grandchildren they don't usually stay in sequester enclave they blend in most immigrants historically have wanted to wash to become Americans first |
1:42.0 | and Polish-American second and Americans first and Italian-Americans second |
1:46.0 | that varies a little bit from time to time but on the whole that's the way it's been it's been an astonishingly successful experiment |
1:54.0 | without great tensions you know the Chinese exclusion laws or you know the internment of Japanese and Japanese-Americans during World War II |
2:02.0 | or you know the apartheid which has enormous tenacity even now but still on the whole |
2:10.0 | we have been wildly successful in this and maybe the trajectory is bent towards justice |
2:18.0 | it doesn't really feel that at the moment but I think we're in a particularly disillusioned |
2:23.0 | even cynical moment here I'm sitting in my living room it's fall my goodness outside the house and on the front curb |
2:31.0 | is Rosanate my air stream it's spectacular it is actually magnificent I've been camping in it for the last week |
2:39.0 | now it's about time to winterize it it has a couple little things that have to get worked out of valve here |
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