Welcome to the Jordan B Peterson podcast. I'm Michaela. This episode was recorded on January 29th,

2021, and is with the illustrator of Dad's newest book, Beyond Order. Juliet Fogra.

Dad has an illustration per rule in this new book that Juliet did, and they are stunning.

You can get them in poster form at his Teespring shop on his website at JordanB Peterson.com

under shop, if you're interested. He has a poster with all 12 rules on it with the illustrations

that's pretty cool. Juliet Fogra's worked as an art director in New York City for 13 years

and is branching out on her own now. They discussed the stunning art she created for Beyond Order,

her life story, artistic composition, her muse one creating, Photoshop, Fine Art, and more.

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