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Listening to America

#1561 The Titan and the Titanic

Listening to America

Listening to America

History, Politics, Unitedstates, Society & Culture, American

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week, Clay Jenkinson’s interview with David Nicandri in the aftermath of the disaster of the submersible Titan in the north Atlantic. Nicandi reflects on the spirit of exploration, the risks taken by those who would go where no man has gone before. Were the five men who died when the submersible imploded just billionaire tourists or adventurers in the spirit of Lewis and Clark and Captain James Cook? How can we make sense of the continuing lure of the Titanic? Where does undersea tourism go from here?

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone, and welcome to this podcast introduction to Listening to America with

0:06.3

Clay Jenkinson.

0:07.3

I had a great conversation with my friend, David McCandry, who is the author of several

0:12.5

books on Lewis and Clark, including one that really won critical acclaim, River Promise

0:18.2

Lewis and Clark on the Columbia, and a book called Captain Cook Rediscovered about the

0:22.4

Third Voyage, which McCandry believes has been misunderstood.

0:26.2

In this conversation, we talked about the endurance Shackleton ship that sank the South

0:31.3

Atlantic in the Arctic to 10,000 feet of water.

0:34.6

This is the famous Shackleton voyage in which they were stranded, but nobody died.

0:39.5

It was a story of incredible pluck and courage and perseverance and great leadership and so

0:44.9

on.

0:45.9

And a man named Menson Bound is a professional archaeologist finds ships under the sea,

0:54.5

and this is sort of the mother ship, the mother load.

0:57.2

And he wrote a book about it called The Ship Beneath the Ice, cast in the form of a journal,

1:00.6

which makes it very interesting.

1:02.5

The full title is The Ship Beneath the Ice, the discoveries of Shackletons and Durants.

1:06.3

An amazing story.

1:07.3

I've never been to Antarctica.

1:08.3

I've never been to the Arctic.

1:09.9

McCandry has been with his son, Dominic, and they're going soon to Saskatchewan.

1:15.2

They're doing father-son trips into the outback of Canada and the Arctic, which is really

1:20.8

a terrific thing.

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