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Mormon Stories Podcast

1560: Loving & Leaving Mormonism - Lizzy & Spencer Bean pt. 3

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2022

⏱️ 250 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back Lizzy and Spencer Bean for the third and final part to their delightful, authentic, hilarious Mormon Stories interview! We dive in head-on in this episode hearing about how marriage for these two young Mormons was not what they expected. But with an interesting reframe to spirituality from an LDS therapist, Lizzy and Spencer’s autonomous spirituality began to emerge like never before. After having enough of spiritual gatekeeping and finding a way to make marriage finally work from them, Spencer describes almost being kicked out of BYU and the situation he was put in by a bishop telling him he had one week to read the Book of Mormon or lose his ecclesiastical endorsement. There are too many topics to list that we cover in this epic final episode with Lizzy and Spencer, but among them are: How and why some Mormons decide to supplement LDS church teachings with New Age spirituality, how wearing garments and Mormon body standards affect women, how empathizing with friends in the LGBTQ community can wake a person up to the realities and harms of Mormon doctrine, and so many other great insights and analogies that help describe why a couple would love Mormonism and choose to leave it!

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of

0:03.0

Warmest Stories podcast. I am your host, John DeLin and I am joined by my

0:07.9

amazing wonderful thoughtful, talented co-host, Caraburrell. Hey, Cara. Hey, John.

0:13.0

Hey. Good to have you. Yeah. You ready to do this? Yeah. Part three. I hope

0:18.7

everyone else is ready. We're having a good time keeping up. Good time's rolling.

0:22.2

We are here with Lizzie and Spencer Bean and we've done two episodes so far.

0:27.7

Hey guys. Thanks for joining us. Part one was Lizzie's epic Mormon story and

0:33.2

part two was Spencer's epic Mormon story and I think it might be one of the

0:38.6

most LDS church affirming two episodes we've ever done on

0:44.4

Warmest Stories podcast. Mormon stories. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think, Cara?

0:48.0

You're proud of that? Yeah. I was just telling John in the break that it feels

0:51.8

really good to let people know like how much you guys cared about the church,

0:54.6

how much I did or John, the things that like really pulled us in gave us

0:58.5

meaning and purpose. Yeah. And then as we're going to get into in this part three,

1:01.5

why that had to unravel at some point. But that makes it hard. Why it makes us

1:07.1

hard? Basically, we're not haters. No. For all the people who think we're haters,

1:10.3

we're not. Anyway, part three is kind of where the rubber meets the road. It's

1:15.6

one of our classic types of Mormon stories episode interviews where we talk

1:20.3

about the faith journey of a couple because we we now reach the point in the

1:24.6

narrative where Spencer's coming home from his mission in sweet from Sweden.

1:30.6

He's raised in Utah County, Mormon. Lizzie is living in Utah County,

1:37.6

having transplanted there from Upper State, New York with parents who are

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