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Think Again - a Big Think Podcast

156. While You Live, Shine – Christopher C. King (Grammy-winning music producer)

Think Again - a Big Think Podcast

Big Think / Panoply

Arts, Society & Culture

4.6594 Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2018

⏱️ 61 minutes

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While you live, shine. Have no mourning at all. Life exists a short while And time demands its fee. – From a 2000 year old tombstone in (then) Greek-speaking Asia Minor I’d like to do a little free-association exercise with you. I’m going to say three words and I’d like you to speak or write down all the words that come to mind as a result. No filtering. No judgment. Ready? American Pop Culture. Go!  . . . Ok. Here’s what I got: Kanye Trump Gun Meme YouTube That’s pretty sad, I suppose. And maybe it anecdotally, non-scientifically supports a claim made by my guest today that culture and music, once mutually dependent, have become totally unmoored and lost in the age of globalism. And that the sounds we make and market today just don’t have anything like the healing power that was music’s purpose for thousands of years. Christopher C. King is a writer, Grammy—winning music producer, and something of an ethnomusicologist. His obsessive collecting of rare ‘78s led him to discover the music of Epirus, a region of northwestern Greece. To his ears, the playing of Kitsos Harisiadis, Alexis Zoumbas, and other Epirote masters virtually unknown outside of Epirus had an elemental power transcending even that of Delta Blues legends like Robert Johnson and Skip James. In Epirus, King  found something he thought had been lost in the world: a musical culture with unbroken roots stretching back into prehistory. And some clues, perhaps, as to why we make music in the first place.  Christopher’s new book is Lament From Epirus: An Odyssey into Europe’s Oldest surviving Folk Music. Surprise conversation-starter clips in this episode: David Kennedy on the biggest problem historians face Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi there, I'm Jason Gots, and you're listening to Think Again a Big Think podcast.

0:09.6

I'd like to do a little free association exercise with you. I'm going to say three words,

0:14.2

and I'd like you to speak or write down all the words that come to mind as a result. No filtering,

0:19.2

no judgment. Ready? American pop culture. Go.

0:24.5

Okay, here's what I got. Kanye Trump, gun, meme, YouTube. That's pretty sad, I suppose.

0:31.1

And maybe it anecdotally non-scientifically supports a claim made by my guest today that

0:35.6

culture and music, once mutually

0:37.8

interdependent, have become totally unmoored and lost in the age of globalism.

0:42.7

And the sounds we make in market today just don't have anything like the healing power

0:47.1

that was music's purpose for thousands of years.

0:50.0

Christopher C. King is a writer, Grammy-winning music producer, and something of an ethnomusicologist.

0:56.0

His obsessive collecting of rare 78s led him to discover the music of

1:00.5

Ipiros, a region of northwestern Greece.

1:03.6

To his ears, the playing of Kitsos Harisades,

1:06.9

Alexis Zumbas, and other Epirote masters,

1:10.7

virtually unknown outside of...

1:13.6

Iperos.

1:14.6

Virtually...

1:15.6

I know, it's tough.

1:17.6

It's tough.

1:18.6

All right, all right.

1:19.6

Iperos had an elemental power transcending even that of Delta Blues legends like Robert Johnson and Skip James, and he'll correct me if I got that

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