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156. Swimming with The Swans (Alicia’s Version) | The Auchincloss Wives: Nina Gore Vidal and Janet Lee Bouvier

Done & Dunne

Hemlock Creatives

History, True Crime

4.7630 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

We completely depart the Feud series this week, beginning the first of a three-episode arc to unpack the real feud, which is little featured in the series – the feud between Truman Capote and Gore Vidal.

This week, in a prologue of sorts, we connect Gore Vidal and Lee Radziwill, long associated before Truman, who are stepsiblings through marriage, thanks to Hugh D. Auchincloss. Hugh’s second and third wives, respectively, were Nina Gore Vidal and Janet Lee Bouvier, mothers of Gore and Lee. This one is multi-layered and involves so many spiderwebs.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Dun & Dunn. I'm Alicia, your hostess on this podcast journey exploring and connecting the

0:07.0

universe of Dominic Dunn. Thank you for joining me today for this surprise episode as we continue to swim with

0:14.9

the Swans this week, but we are leaving the Capote v. the Swans feud series behind.

0:23.0

This episode is going to be the first of three to unpack the story of the real feud.

0:31.3

That is the battle between Truman Capote and Gore Vidal.

0:35.3

It's epic. It's super epic.

0:42.3

So many connected bits. The full understanding of the feud between Gore Vidal and Truman Capote, understanding that saga, makes a way bigger impact when you have the whole entire sorted story.

0:53.6

All Truman Capote really does is get involved in the affairs of a family that he really had no business to talk about in the first place.

1:02.8

But Truman Capote has all the inside scoop within the family, as Truman Capote and dear Princess Lee Radzwell have been bosom friends since the late

1:14.0

1950s. They do not stay that way by the late 1970s when Truman Capote will talk to Playgirl

1:21.9

magazine about a scandalous story that happened all the way back at the White House in 1962.

1:29.8

Truman talks about this particular story many, many moons later, which begins the whole

1:35.4

lawsuit mess with Gorvidal that endures through the late 70s and even up to and after Capote's

1:42.8

death. Before we get to The Fe, we have a little investigating to do.

1:50.1

Gore Vidal and Lee Radzwell are step-siblings.

1:54.7

They do not share the same mother or father, but they are related in the family tree

2:00.8

through Hugh D.

2:02.8

Ockincloss.

2:04.6

Gore's mother, Nina Gore Vidal, and Lee's mother, Janet Lee Bouvier, are the second and third

2:14.9

wives, respectively, of Hugh D. Aachenclaw's.

2:19.7

Gore, Lee, and, by association, Jacqueline Kennedy, all share a stepfather.

2:27.4

That's Hugh D. Aachenclaus.

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