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The Rest Is Politics: US

155. The Real Story Behind Trump’s ICE “Retreat”

The Rest Is Politics: US

Goalhanger

News, Government, Politics

4.42.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Is Trump genuinely scaling back ICE – or is this a tactic? Why does he want to nationalise elections ? And how far does the Epstein trail really reach? Join Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci as they answer all these questions and more. Sign up to our free newsletter here Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠therestispoliticsus@goalhanger.com⁠⁠ Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Callum Hill Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producer: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to The Rest is Politics.

0:42.0

US with me, Cathy Kay, back in Washington, D.C.

0:44.4

Finally, I feel like I've been gone for a long time.

0:48.5

I'm digging out from under the ice, the big freeze of Washington.

0:49.8

How are you, Anthony?

0:51.6

Well, welcome back to your home.

0:52.9

So nice to be home.

0:54.1

I always like getting home.

0:59.2

I'm here in New York. We also have weather that is more frozen than Alaska.

1:03.4

But you know what's not frozen, Caddy, are these Epstein files, okay?

1:06.5

It's like molten lava. It's like a volcanic explosion.

1:07.3

Yeah.

1:27.7

Which is having a big impact on the UK and the potential UK government. I don't know if it's going to have a big impact on the US government, but I will predict, like Ed Luce said on your show yesterday, it's going to have an impact on our culture. I think people are really fed up. Yeah, I think they don't like seeing powerful people get away with things. No question. And that's what this is increasingly looking like.

1:33.2

There's so much going on. We want to give you as much as we can, guys, but there is a common theme to some of this. I want to talk about the Washington Post. I have lots of friends who work there,

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