So what you're about to hear is the live show that we recorded in Brooklyn, in New York City, in May of 2019, May 15th,

and I took advantage of the live show format to use a lot of visual examples, images and illustrations and that sort of thing.

I took out the videos in the edited audio, but I left in the talk about all the images and stuff.

So in the show you're going to hear me like you hear me now,

dropping in and giving some descriptions here and there. But if you'd like to see the visuals from the show,

those images and the video of the entire event are both available at you are not so smart

Facebook page and the you're not so smart YouTube channel links to all of that will be

in the show notes with the episode both in your podcast program in the description in there

and over at the website. Now most of all what you'll need in your brain for reference

in this episode is what the internet collectively refers to as the dress, the image that

went viral a few years back of a dress that for some people appears as one color and for

others appears as another. So if you have never experienced that image, it's sort of the centerpiece of the entire

live show.

Now would be a good time to pause and go take a look at it.

You can search for the address and it should come up right away.

It has its own Wikipedia page.

And if not, you can search for the dress illusion,

and you should be able to see it.

Also, the live show was a little more than two hours long and so to help you get to the parts that you'd most like to listen to, if you don't plan to start at the beginning, here's the time codes for different segments. I introduced the guests at about 13 minutes in. We

begin exploring the dress itself at about 41 minutes in, and we discussed the political implications of all of this at about one hour and ten minutes in.

Also, this was a really great event. I hope you get a chance to come to the next live show that we do,

and if you would like there to be a live

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