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#1542 The Quest for the Wooly Mammoth

Listening to America

Listening to America

Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week, Clay Jenkinson's conversation with Dr. Grant Zazula, a Yukon paleontologist. Nothing seemed to have fascinated Thomas Jefferson more than the mammoth and the mastodon, to the point that his detractors ridiculed his obsession. Jefferson convinced Meriwether Lewis and William Clark to dig up mastodon bones at Big Bone Lick, Kentucky. Grant Zazula has had spectacular success gathering mammoth bones exposed by placer gold mining in the Yukon. Most recently, he was able to collect an intact mummified baby mammoth, which delighted and stunned the paleontological community. Clay had the opportunity to hear Dr. Zazula's amazing story of scientific fascination and paleontological success. 

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Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to this podcast introduction to this week's Thomas Jefferson

0:04.4

hour.

0:05.4

Just want to take a moment to talk about the extraordinary new directions that the Jefferson

0:09.6

hour is taking and to encourage you to help us along with your thoughts, themes, things

0:15.8

we should think and talk about, people we should interview, your questions, you know, and

0:22.2

possibly also your financial help and contributions.

0:26.0

But mostly, I'm just eager to talk with you about where things are.

0:29.8

I had a great week this week, I'm in Bismarck, I had the chance to talk with Ed Watts of

0:37.5

the University of California, San Diego, the author of Mortal Republic, which is really

0:42.6

a remarkable book about the last days of the Roman Republic, and he's some of the that

0:48.3

I've interviewed before for governing.

0:50.3

But now with the new expanded vision of the Jefferson hour, we'll be kind of moving

0:53.7

out from just the life and times of Jefferson into a much broader brush, you know, a wider

0:59.1

lens, a set of lenses.

1:00.8

And this interview was really what I most want to do in the world.

1:04.0

So here's this man, Gran Sezula, who's doing remarkable things up in the Yukon.

1:09.7

I had never heard of him, but I had heard of these mammoth finds, particularly in Siberia.

1:15.0

In fact, 18 or so years ago on the Jefferson hour, Tracy Panzerella era, we interviewed

1:20.0

an American paleontologist who had helped on Earth a complete mammoth in ice in Siberia.

1:27.0

That was an extraordinary interview.

1:28.6

And so now when I saw the news that this baby mummified, mammoth had been found in the

1:35.0

Yukon.

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