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The Pomp Podcast

#1541 Michael Ellis | CIA Says Bitcoin Is A Tool They Use

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Michael Ellis is the Deputy Director of the CIA. In this conversation we talk about the relationship between US and China, Taiwan, how they evaluate technology and AI, bitcoin, cartels, and what Micheal pays attention to on a daily basis. 

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and tell your friends and family about the podcast. My goal is to help millions learn from the

0:26.5

world's most interesting people. So let's get in to today's episode. Anthony Pompliano runs

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pomp investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are surely their opinions,

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and do not reflect the opinions

0:38.4

of pomp investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by pomp or his guest as a

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specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as

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an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

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