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Pick Me Up, I'm Scared.

154. Nazis, Cookies, and Ronald Reagan -- Pt. 3

Pick Me Up, I'm Scared.

Madeline Pendleton and David Roberts

Society & Culture

4.8783 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

This week, Madeline and David talk about the history of American intervention in Ukraine, part 3!

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https://www.patreon.com/pickmeupimscared/posts

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pick Me Up, I'm Scared. The podcast.

0:24.9

I'm your host, Madeline. I am your co-host, David.

0:27.9

And today we are back with part three of our multi-part series about the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

0:35.9

Yep. And as always, I'm just going to say it. We're going to do shit.

0:41.7

And your dog is going to slowly destroy your office. You know, sometimes Fork just wants to do a backflip off

0:47.8

the couch. And I think that she should have that freedom. I look, I'm not against it. I'm just

0:52.6

saying for those listening at home, the crashing sound.

0:57.2

Les Fork trying to do a backflip off of the couch and failing.

1:00.5

She's not a graceful creature.

1:02.0

Yeah.

1:02.6

But she's ambitious.

1:03.6

And I don't want to, you know, kind of get that ambitious spirit knocked out of her too early.

1:09.5

You know, I dealt with like an ambitious, it's kind of like a doxen all day.

1:16.8

Yeah, David has been nannying.

1:19.2

Which was essentially being punched in the head repeatedly by a three-year-old for 10 hours.

1:24.4

That's what I imagine having a kid is like.

1:26.2

And then I tried to take her outside to run around to get some energy out.

1:32.1

Uh-huh.

1:32.7

And she kept trying to jump down an entire staircase into the basement.

1:38.3

Oh, okay.

1:41.0

Yeah, I could see that looking fun if you were a little kid, especially if you had like

1:43.8

a pillowcase tied around your neck or something.

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