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#154: Escape at Dannemora: Discussing the Inspector General's Report

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.210.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, the Real Crime Profile Team (Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti) speak with real life Inspector General Catherine Leahy Scott and Deputy Inspector General Jim Davis about their work on the case that inspired the series, their report and their observations about the offenders

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

This episode series was done in partnership with and sponsored by Showtime.

0:12.0

Inspector General Catherine Leigh, he's got spent hours here at the Clinton County Jail interviewing Joyce Mitchell.

0:19.0

As part of Mitchell's plea deal, she was ordered to cooperate with investigators with releasing details about the prison escape of Richard Matt and David Sweat.

0:30.0

You ever hear talk of prison breaks when you were there? Never.

0:37.0

Never. It was just so impossible that it wasn't even something that was more or less discussed behind the walls there.

0:49.0

No. God is not going to talk about prison breaks. If somebody that actually is going to, you know, consider doing something like that, they're going to keep that to themselves because you have all the gods in it that would actually tell, you know, the administration, what's going on?

0:59.0

To try to maybe cut daytime. So that's not something that you're going to have people talk about.

1:04.0

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of CBS's Criminal Minds.

1:12.0

And with me today on the same side of the pond is Laura Richards, former criminal behavior analyst, New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

1:21.0

And I'm very happy to be on this side of the pond. Great.

1:25.0

We're happy to have you back, Laura. I'm Lisa Zambetti. I'm the casting director of Receivius's Criminal Minds. I have a real interest in Real Crime and the minds that solve those crimes and the minds that bring those crimes to justice.

1:37.0

Well, great. And as we all know, we're all really excited today because we have two incredibly special guests.

1:45.0

Well, hello. And thank you for having me. I'm Catherine Leigh E. Scott on the New York State Inspector General. And with me is my deputy inspector general.

1:53.0

James Davis, pleasure to be here. Well, thank you so much for coming. Catherine and James. I am so happy to welcome you as our Lisa and Laura.

2:04.0

And we want to talk about an incredibly well-written, amazing report about an escape from Danimora. Can you tell us when you started writing that report?

2:18.0

Sure. That was a report that deals with the escape of two inmates from the Clinton Correctional Facility, which is located in upstate New York, Danimora, New York.

2:30.0

And the escape occurred in the late hours of June 5, 2015, into the early morning hours of June 6, 2015.

2:38.0

We had conducted almost a year-long investigation into that matter. And the report was actually issued and published a year later on the anniversary date, June 6, 2016.

2:53.0

We actually started writing that report. I would say sometime in the fall and early winter 2015, 2016, as that's when the evidence was really coming together for us to actually start putting pen to paper to write the report.

3:08.0

So could we step back for just one second? So what were you doing on the morning of June 6, 2015?

3:16.0

Absolutely. And thank you for the question because it is a day that in your career that you don't forget certain days, and that's one of the days I will never forget.

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