154. African Clean Energy Access: Why Gas Cannot Be The Future Africa Chooses with Rachel Kyte
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 20 May 2022
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the impacts of living through a global energy crisis while living through a climate crisis.
Inflation is running at 10% in most major economies, the highest in decades. This is driven primarily by the cost of food and energy. And while most of us are aware of higher prices at the pump and on energy bills, today we focus on the hardest place it is hitting: Africa.
Since 2019, 4% of Africans have lost access to affordable energy, undoing a decade of gains. And with a desire in the Global North to get off of Russian Gas, there is higher demand for gas, and therefore pushing more and more people out of the ability to afford it. This week in response, African Ministers made the case for expanding gas production in Africa, amidst a climate crisis.
So that’s the setup for this week’s discussion - we bring in Rachel Kyte, Dean of the Fletcher School at Tufts University to argue the case on how to move forward out of this complicated situation.
And be sure to stick around ‘til the end for a brand new tune from Carmody titled, “Mother.”
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Thanks to our guest this week, Rachel Kyte!
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrage and Optimism, I'm Tom Rific Karnak. |
| 0:15.9 | I'm Cristiana Piedes. |
| 0:17.3 | And I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:18.7 | This week we talk about the impacts of living through a global energy crisis while we're |
| 0:22.6 | also facing a climate crisis. |
| 0:24.6 | We speak to Rachel Kai, Dean of the Fletcher School at Tufts University and we have music |
| 0:30.6 | from comedy. |
| 0:31.6 | Thanks for being here. |
| 0:39.9 | So, anyone who's paying attention will know we have a full blown cost of living crisis |
| 0:50.4 | on our hands at the moment. |
| 0:52.3 | This is running at 10% in most major economies the highest in decades and this is driven |
| 0:56.8 | primarily by the cost of food and energy. |
| 0:59.9 | Now the food issue is extremely serious. |
| 1:01.9 | We've seen wheat go up four times in Egypt in the last couple of months, India has banned |
| 1:06.9 | the export of grain. |
| 1:08.6 | This is a humanitarian crisis in the making and we're going to delve into this next week, |
| 1:13.4 | but today we're going to talk about energy. |
| 1:16.0 | Now listeners will likely already have had a visceral reminder of energy prices when |
| 1:20.0 | at the pump or playing their electricity bills. |
| 1:22.8 | The war in Ukraine is causing a spike in prices everywhere. |
| 1:26.6 | But while we all suffer, today we're going to focus on one area where this is hitting |
| 1:31.0 | the hardest and that is Africa. |
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