This is popular front a podcast focused on the niche details of modern warfare and

underreported conflict with me Jake Hanrahan. Today we're speaking to writer and filmmaker

Thomas de Kiza. He's going to be speaking to us about a very very unknown militant anti-tech group from France. They were very active in the

80s and they were also maybe resurfaced in the south of France recently. We're going to be hearing about this group's attacks their philosophy

and looking to why most people have never heard of them despite them carrying out dozens of attacks, some of them very serious arson attacks

on computer technology companies back in the 80s and again maybe now.

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You've come across this

what I think could only really be described as an underground violent anti-tech

group, one of which I'd never heard of and I am obsessed with that kind of stuff and I was very surprised.

I was like, no, I'm sure I've heard of these.

And then when you show me what you're doing, I was like, no, this is mad, I've never seen it.

This is like really interesting.

So do you want to, guess kind of introduce you know this group that you found that you've made a documentary about like who are they?

Yeah, so first of all I came across this group when sort of digging around information online about groups of European kind of radical left groups and like the 70s and the 80s like groups like

action direct, reprogates, the R. A. F. All these kind of ultra left armed groups

that were active around that time. At some point I come across this group calling it itself Clodol and they

the only thing I could find about them online was a very very brief Wikipedia page and what they described as a self-interview in which they clearly post questions to themselves,

responded to them and send it to a magazine in France.

And they sort of quickly find out

that it's very little about this group available.

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