Welcome to Beyond the Ring, a podcast that covers all things in the stock show industry, from the informative to the insane, starring Ryan Rash.

Every brick that's thrown at you, use it to build your dreams.

And Dale Hummel.

Never stop thinking about how to do things better.

Never accept you found the best method.

Now on with the show.

Welcome to be with the show.

Welcome to Beyond the Ring.

This is Dale Hummel, along with co-star, Ryan Rash.

Hello, hello, hello.

Ryan, it's good to hear your voice, and you're still at Houston.

Have you returned? No, I got home an hour ago.

An hour ago. I got home late last night from Oklahoma City and then to K-State for K-State Goat Days. And daughter Tara and I were

very privileged to have the opportunity to speak there. And it was an excellent event. 450 people showed up to learn about show goats,

primarily, how to feed your show goat, how to take care of your goat. It was wonderful. Very good

experience, but I got in fairly late last night, and it is my fault that we're recording on a Sunday,

and we don't know if Trump is still in jail or not when this drops.

Any predictions on that, Ryan?

I have no predictions.

But just so you know, since Dale has to go on every vacation in the world, he's going to Belize for however long.

So, like, I'm literally trying to pack up my worldly belongings from three weeks of the Houston Stock Show,

all this other stuff. He's like, oh, I need to record tonight.

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