Ah, she's brilliant. Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat. We get it. Four votes for a festival,

three for a city break. It's hard to adhere to everyone's needs. There's Betty with her

oversized tent. Sarah and her six foot eight boyfriend.

All right.

Roger Junior and his dog, Roger Senior.

And don't get us started on Mel.

But, like a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together.

All aboard, Miss I finally got plans out the group. a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together.

All aboard Miss I finally got plans out the group chat.

Keep everyone's plans alive when you travel with us.

P, and O'Ferees, there is another way. And the Now before we before he's got started with our conversation today

Blee and I were just touching on a couple different things and he mentioned something to me that I was not aware of that he had worked against a group called the National Alliance.

And what was that guy's Well, Timothy, what's his name?

Oh, Timothy McVeigh.

Yeah.

And this, so this peak my interest because if you know, if you're not familiar with Timothy McVeigh it has to do with the

Oklahoma City bombing so tell us about how you got involved with that Billy.

That was getting handed off from one hate group to another, one anti-government group to another.

The Ku Klux Klan actually introduced me into the National Alliance, and I really didn't know who the National Alliance.

And I really didn't know who the National Alliance was at that time.

I was wanting an introduction from the Ku Klux Klan out in North Carolina to the Klan in California, but I got introduced to a guy that was in charge of the West Coast chapter of the National Alliance.

And as it turned out, the National Alliance was one of the most, if probably not the most,

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