I'm Alice and I'm Brett and this is the prosecutor's legal briefs.

I'm your host, Alice, and I'm joined as always by my addicting co-host, Brett.

There you go, Alice.

I was sitting here wondering, what is she going to say?

And then you come through as always.

And it's true.

People just can't quit me.

That's all there is to it.

It's not about you, Brett.

As usual, it's not about you, Brett. As usual, it's not about you. And here's why it's not about you. Today, we have an amazing guest with us. You guys are going to love this episode because you're going to have some reading to do after this episode. We have with us investigative journalist Philip Isle. And he is here to talk about an incredible new book he has out.

It's called Prescription for Pain, How a Once Promising Doctor Became the Pill Mill Killer.

Philip, thank you so much for being here.

When I was a prosecutor, prosecuting pill mill doctors was if you could have a specialty was my specialty and it was one of

the saddest types of investigations I could undertake but most meaningful and you turned more than a

decade-long investigation into this incredible book thank you for being with us today philip

thank you so much for having me it's a real pleasure to be here.

And I didn't realize that you had so much experience with this topic. So I'm eager to hear your

thoughts. Oh, it's not about me. It's actually about this particular doctor that you write about.

So, you know, usually when we think about doctors, we don't think about true crime. But I always

introduce Brett with an adjective.

And I do not make light of what we're about to talk about when I say addicting.

Because one of the things about these pill mill doctors and what you delve into in terms of how someone becomes this, how someone who has such an incredible professional background, who has so many academic and professional accolades, can fall so deep into fueling the opioid crisis and really feeding on the addictions of people, which is an illness.

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