Josh Jason. Thank you. Thanks for being here. Try to keep this sucker like a fist from your face

Gentlemen, what's happening? How are you? Thanks for having us. Happy to be here. My pleasure. My pleasure. Let's just start this off just tell everybody what you

guys are here for and what you do okay well we do a lot of things you do a lot of things

where I do shout out to Andre Ward for introducing us.

Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

One of my best friends and actually personal heroes.

But, um, so Jason and I both work at the Innocence Project.

I'm the ambassador, the Innocence Project. I'm the Ambassador, the Innocence Ambassador

of the Innocence Project in New York and we're here to get the word out

about wrongful convictions. We have a podcast. Jason has had a long successful

podcast called wrongful conviction with Jason Flom. I'm the host of a new

spin-off of that called wrongful conviction junk science which examines all of these disciplines of forensic

sciences that have been proven to be total bullshit total junk is the name

would suggest that's good's get to that.

I want to hear what those are.

But Jason, can you just tell everybody what you're originally in the record business?

Yeah, thanks for bringing that up.

I've been in music business since I was 18 years old so I've signed acts over the years.

I said record business because I'm old. Yeah I still call it that too.

You've been in the A track game for a while. It sounds nostalgic a little bit, right?

We missed those vinyl discs.

A little bit, yeah.

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