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Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Okay, very shorthouse keeping here.

Many things happening in the news. The Mueller report just came in. I think I'll do a podcast on

this when there's real clarity around it. I'll get some suitable scholar on. So I'll defer that

for the moment and just introduce today's guest. Today I'm speaking with Roger McNamey.

Roger has been a Silicon Valley investor for 35 years. He has co-founded successful venture

funds, including Elevation, where he's partnered with U2's Bono as a co-founder. He holds a BA

from Yale and an MBA from the Tuck Business School at Dartmouth. But of relevance today is that he

was an advisor to Mark Zuckerberg very early on and helped recruit Cheryl Sandberg to Facebook.

And he is now a very energetic critic of the company and of many of these platforms.

Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc. We focus on Facebook in particular. We talk about Google to some degree.

But this conversation is a very deep look at all that is going wrong with digital media and how it

is subverting democracy, making it harder and harder to make sense to one another. It's a growing

problem that I've discussed many times on the podcast, but today's episode is an unusually deep dive.

So now, without further delay, I bring you Roger McNamey.

I am here with Roger McNamey. Roger, thanks for coming on the podcast.

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