152: The Hobbit 25: Out of the Fire and Seized by Eagle Tallons!
Lord of the Rings Lorecast
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🗓️ 17 February 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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The party isn't yet safe. Bilbo holds on for dear life and wonders if the Eagles are friends or foes.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Lord of the Rings lore cast, |
| 0:09.0 | the show that explores the background of Tolkien works of, well, fiction and mythology, religion on Tolkien's writing. It comes up all the time. I'm |
| 0:41.0 | sure you've noticed it. But in this episode today, this section of the Hobbit, we're going to |
| 0:47.0 | be talking about something a little bit different. There are specific words that come up that point |
| 0:52.9 | to a very specific tonal influence on the way that we should be perceiving the eagles. And it's a subtle thing, but I will point it out. I want you to kind of keep this in mind as we're going through. And before we get to those sections, I want you to be thinking about the nature of angels. |
| 1:14.0 | And I know oftentimes the Valar or the Mayar get referred to as angelic beings in Tolkien's |
| 1:22.1 | mythology. And there's definitely evidence for that. It's something that I've actually |
| 1:27.3 | probably said it myself in past episodes. But there's definitely evidence for that. It's something that I've actually probably said it myself |
| 1:28.5 | in past episodes. But there's also another comparison to angelic beings. And I want you to think about |
| 1:34.8 | biblical angels, the actual texts around biblical angels. And if you haven't studied them, |
| 1:41.6 | we don't need to quote the specific text for you to understand what's going on here. In the Bible, when angels are referred to most of the time, |
| 1:51.7 | they are both angelic. They are messengers from God, but they're often referred to as also |
| 1:59.3 | something to be feared. They're actually referred to more often |
| 2:04.4 | in the Bible as being like the military force of God than anything else. And although they are |
| 2:14.1 | on the side of good, they are something to be feared and could just as easily save you as smite you. |
| 2:23.0 | They often descend from the sky and the actual representation of angels. |
| 2:28.0 | I'm sure you've probably seen, if you haven't, look up online the way that you would actually, like, represent a biblical angel. |
| 2:36.9 | It's definitely not a dude with wings. |
| 2:40.9 | It's something often with wings, but also floating in the sky with eyes and all sorts of weird shapes and stuff. |
| 2:47.3 | It's often very, very strange. |
| 2:49.0 | But the classical version of this becomes a dude with wings. |
| 2:53.7 | But wings, eagles, there is a connection there, descending from the sky, another connection. |
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