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You're a safe place to find hope, healing, and freedom from sexual addiction, betrayal, and relationship issues.

Happy Tuesday to you people, or whatever day it is when you listen.

I am your host, Trevor Windsor, and you are listening to episode 151 of the Pure Desire

podcast.

Here joining me, as always, is my co-host, Nicholas J. Stumbo.

All right, chefs, open up those baskets.

So I'm like trying to not feel shame that I don't know because we talk about it a little

bit in today's episode that you come up with these obscure intros that I don't know because we talk about it a little bit in today's episode that

you come up with these obscure intros that I don't know. It's kind of like my new goal is can I bring

in intros that Trevor won't know the reference for? And all of our listeners will hear me

triggered at least 75% of the time. So today we have a pretty cool episode.

We've never done this before.

We're doing basically what I'm going to call a mashup episode with Matt Dobbschutes from

Porn Free Radio.

And he's also, he does recoveredman.com.

And we just talked about his ministry, our ministry.

We had some conversations of our story, talked about the culture

and the church a little bit and a lot. Yeah, it was awesome. We just felt like because we're all

podcasters rather than us interview him and then later him interview us, like let's just

have a great conversation about freedom and integrity and what that looks like. And since you

didn't ask, I'll go back to my reference was from the food.

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