1503: A Mormon Lesbian Love Story Pt. 2 - Lena Schwen and Sal Osborne

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2021

⏱️ 160 minutes

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What happens when two closeted lesbian Mormon women marry men, have children, then cross paths and fall in love? In this very special Mormon Stories 2 part episode, we are honored to share one of the most important interviews in the history of the podcast. This is the story of Lena Schwen and Sal Osborne. In part 1, Sal describes dating in high school, feeling as though part of her died as she married a man in the LDS temple, and struggling with her ex-husband and band mate as they toured in the group “Love You Long Time”. Lena, a teenage convert from a divorced Catholtic Italian home, takes us through the heartbreaking events that led to her conversion into the LDS church. Lena has a truly unique story and fascinating perspectives from the eyes of a convert! We end part one with Lena realizing that raising children with the values taught by the LDS church made her feel like her time being a dedicated Mormon wife was running out. We hope you’ll tune in to part 2 to hear how these two amazing women overcame enormous hurdles to become the couple they are today!

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome back to part two of what I think is a beautiful and powerful
0:06.6	and inspiring and a times heartbreaking and heart-wrenching amazing story.
0:12.0	We're also calling it a Mormon lesbian love story, but I welcome you back to part two of
0:18.6	my interview with Lena and Sal.
0:20.9	Hey guys.
0:21.9	Hey.
0:22.9	Hey.
0:23.9	How was dinner?
0:24.9	Oh delicious.
0:25.9	Delicious.
0:26.9	Was Kara good host?
0:27.9	The best.
0:28.9	Of course.
0:29.9	So those of you who did not join us for part one, pause this, go back and listen to
0:34.7	our watch part one and then join us now.
0:36.8	But just as a quick recap, we just spent several really good hours with Lena and Sal talking
0:42.8	about in Sal's case being raised, uh, member of the Church of Jesus Christ, let her say
0:47.4	it's knowing that she was different in high school, wondering about her attractions,
0:52.5	but doubling down on the Mormon thing, being a super high achieving Mormon, ending up getting
0:57.2	married in a Mormon temple and, uh, doing the traditional Mormon thing and struggling
1:02.2	with that because she discovered that maybe her attractions to her husband weren't kind
1:06.8	of what she thought, but she had three kids with him.
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