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Here's Where It Gets Interesting

150. Momentum: The Ripples Made by Ordinary People, Part 5

Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.915.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of our special series, Momentum: Civil Rights in the 1950s, Sharon speaks with pulitzer-prize winning author, Gilbert King. It's Important for people to know that the popular narrative of the 1950s – depicted as a time full of sock hops, poodle skirts, and Rock & Roll – was not the lived experience of many Black Americans. In numerous ways, their experience was often worse than what people commonly think of, particularly in the South, including forms of debt slavery. This leads us to The Groveland Four: A harrowing story of 4 young black men who were targeted, and wrongly accused of the rape of a 17-year old white farm wife in rural Florida. “Mr. Civil Rights” himself, Thurgood Marshall, learned of the capital punishment case and was eventually able to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court, though not in time to save them all. How did he appeal this case to the U.S. Supreme Court? And what happens when the town sheriff takes the law into his own hands?

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0:00.0

Hello friends, welcome, welcome to the fifth installment of our special series that we're

0:15.8

calling Momentum.

0:18.2

And the series is about the struggle for freedom and the everyday Americans who made that

0:26.1

possible.

0:27.1

Today, I want to give you a small content morning.

0:32.4

There are some topics that we're going to discuss today that are a little bit heavy.

0:37.1

It's not overly graphic, but I just wanted to let you know in case you have very small

0:43.4

children.

0:44.4

This might be something that you want to listen to in your headphones.

0:48.0

I had initially planned for this episode to go in one direction.

0:55.1

And as I got more into it, I was stunned.

1:01.0

There was no way that I could just let the episode roll as planned.

1:05.4

There was no way that I could give it a little 15 minute summary.

1:09.8

I had to do more.

1:11.2

This is a story that more Americans need to know about.

1:15.9

These are people that more Americans need to know about.

1:19.6

And so I called up a Pulitzer Prize winning author who has written about this extensively.

1:27.7

His name is Gilbert King.

1:30.0

And we talked about the Groveland boys, and Harry T. Moore, Thurgood Marshall, and J.

1:38.9

Edgar Hoover.

1:40.9

And you have got to hear this conversation.

1:46.0

Just to give you a little bit of context in the late 1940s, four black men were accused

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