This is an awesome podcast to the Jeff there's a lot of whiskey Jeff Makalino Jeff Makalino

Makalino Makalino podcast Hey everybody welcome to the show

got a good one for you today and I don't want to talk about football or anything

else so I'm going to dive right in especially not football football stupid

Derrick Carr got hurt so that's what I'm saying that I don't mean at football

gods even though you've treated me like garbage my whole life minus one season

anyways Martin Tracy joins me today he's a big fan of the other kind of football

as some Americans call it soccer not that that's the theme of this episode

just a fun fact I wasn't drinking while I interviewed Martin

but I have been drinking now so Martin is an author who's published a lot of

books and some intriguing concepts and conspiracy theories are woven in

so this was a fun chat we talked not only about writing but about the

conspiracies I probably go a little off the deep end at times but you know

it's me what do you expect I'm just out here trying to be you know Joe Rogan

just if I made like a tenth of the money he makes for his podcast I'd be set

so make sure you tell your friends to listen to this damn podcast right like

why don't you want to help me Joe Rogan doesn't need you to listen just

click my podcast Martin is a fascinating man and a fascinating guest

and a real fun time talking to him and frankly someone who I probably will

ask to come back on the podcast because I feel like we only scratched the

surface but you know when I'm you know I'm I try to make it a point to

wrap up around 55 minutes to an hour and it just so happened we were at a

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