So hello, everybody. I would like to introduce you to Dr. Paula Boddington. Dr. Boddington is a moral philosopher. She teaches at several schools, and she's also a published author on questions of morality. And in several issues as well. She's kind of dabbled in all kinds of subjects. I've seen her on television in the UK.

She discusses the problems of AI, which is why I have her on our show today to talk about the narratives around AI, the ethics of AI, because I know it's something that interests

you the people that watches this channel quite a bit.

Yeah. this channel quite a bit. This is Jonathan Peugeot.

Welcome to the symbolic world.

Yeah. Welcome to the symbolic world. So Dr. Paula, maybe you can start by introducing yourself, because I do what I can, to introduce yourself

and tell us a little bit how you got interested in how you moved into the field of

AI and morality. Okay, hi. Thanks very much. So, well, I started working on issues about AI and

ethics about five or six years ago, just by one of those chances, because I was working with some,

I was working at one of the colleges in Oxford, and there were a couple of people there who were really interested in this.

So we applied, and around about the time, what was happening was it was around about 2014,

2015, there was a lot of attention to the problems of there might be forthcoming disasters

in relation to AI.

So people like Stephen Hawkin and Elon Musk were speaking out, claiming that they're, well,

really worried about concerns about what might happen when we develop AI in the future.

And then what happened was that there's an organisation called the Future of Life Institute,

which is based in Boston.

And Elon Musk donated a whole lot of money for research projects looking at beneficial AI. So three of us, we put in a proposal and we're lucky enough to get, we got one of our grants. So I was working on that for a couple of years. But the topic we were looking at was developing, developing codes of ethics for AI.

So I worked on that, which is, it kind of, it's really interesting. There's now, there are so many codes of different codes of ethics for AI all over the world. It was actually a website that

collates and tracks them all. But what I was really interested in was not so much developing a code of

ethics because, well, what I'm really interested in is looking at the issues behind that,

looking at how you might even start to think about what the ethical issues are. And then

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