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15 Years Doing What I Hated… 8-Figure Exit. Worth It?

Moneywise

Hampton

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.7 • 701 Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

127 founders (net worth: ~$1M–$100M+) opened up their personal books. Want to see how your finances stack up? https://www.joinhampton.com/wealth-report


How Ronan Berder accidentally built a consulting agency, scaled it to 8 figures, and sold it, despite never enjoying the work.

Here’s what we talk about:

  • Why Ronan stayed in China running a business he didn't love, and the deep sense of duty he felt to his team.
  • Walking away from an opportunity to follow his passion in order to focus on scaling the business that already had momentum (despite not enjoying it).
  • Navigating two failed acquisition attempts before finally exiting for 8 figures.
  • The surprising anticlimax of selling his business and realizing… nothing really changes.
  • His brutally honest reflections on burnout, entrepreneurship, and why he feels most alive under pressure.
  • A transparent look at his current investment portfolio, from fixed deposits to high-conviction plays in AI and Bitcoin.
  • Why Ronan says success comes down to discipline, stubbornness, and grit, not genius or perfect strategy.
  • How it feels to finally focus on his true passion.

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Chapters:

(01:08) Ronan's Current Life in Singapore

(03:02) Transition to Coding and Open Source Projects

(09:39) Early Life and Career Beginnings

(11:47) Starting a Business in China

(17:43) Growth and Realizations in Business

(21:19) Living a Minimalist Life

(22:24) Balancing Work and Personal Life

(24:23) Business Challenges and The Impact of COVID-19

(28:27) The Final Push and Burnout

(29:36) Selling the Business

(32:05) Life After the Sale

(38:55) Financial Management Post-Sale

(41:35) Reflecting on the Journey


This podcast is a ridiculous concept: high-net-worth people reveal their personal finances. Inspired by real conversations happening in the Hampton community.

Your Host: Harry Morton

  • Founder of Lower Street, a podcast production company helping brands launch and grow top-tier podcasts.
  • Co-parents a cow named Eliza.

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, so here's the deal. I just came from our 25-person all-hands meeting with all my staff at Hampton.

0:08.3

Right after the meeting finished, it was now time for me to do ad reads for Moneywise.

0:13.6

Today's sponsor is a company called Oceans. So it's Oceans Talent.com.

0:18.4

And I was given this script to read and I just said, screw it, I'm just going to tell you what just happened.

0:23.7

So at my all hands, that just end, about four of the 25 people there, they were people we found via oceans.

0:31.3

And so offshoring gets a bad rap.

0:34.4

And it gets a bad rap because a lot of people think that the people you hire via offshoreing

0:39.7

firms are low-level talent and do low-level work or they just do stuff that AI is already

0:45.4

replacing.

0:46.3

That is not true at all.

0:48.2

The people who we have who are EAs at our company, they help us with marketing.

0:52.0

They do operations.

0:53.0

And we treat them as fully part of our

0:55.9

team because they are. And I know who they are. And it's just like a regular employee in America.

1:02.4

And what's great about oceans is you can get top talent and finance marketing operations,

1:07.0

basically any role that you're hiring for, for only about $3,000, at least that's the

1:11.6

starting point. And you can get amazing, talented people in like two weeks. One of these

1:16.4

folks who worked for us, I think we've got her in like five days, and she's amazing. We've worked

1:21.4

with her for like a year now. And so if you don't want to burn a lot of cash, but you still want

1:25.9

the best high caliber people and you don't want bloat and you don't want to burn a lot of cash, but you still want the best high caliber people

1:27.6

and you don't want bloat and you don't want fluff at your company,

1:30.5

you guys got to check them out.

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