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Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

15 – The Ballad of Harvey and Janet

Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes

Books, Visual Arts, Arts

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2014

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In which we announce exciting new developments, the ASPCA should probably have a word with Emma Frost, Kitty Pryde gets a new costume, Lee Forrester is still the best, Cyclops has an octopus on his chest, Magneto has a change of heart, and Wolverine embraces transhumanism.

X-Plained:

  • The Thomas Hardy novel of superhero comics
  • Friendship
  • X-Men #148-152
  • Unstable Denim
  • Disco Dinner Clubs
  • Caliban (a little)
  • Kitty Pryde’s amazing fashion sense
  • Garokk the Unremarkable
  • Atlantean couture
  • Why Magneto is Interesting
  • The Massachusetts Academy
  • The Persona Exchange Gun
  • Harvey and Janet
  • How to win $2500 in 1980
  • Editorial Outsourcing

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0:00.0

Hey Miles, Amazing X-Men 7 is a riff on Spider-Man and his amazing friends, right?

0:04.4

Yeah, Rachel, it's Spider-Man, Iceman, and Fire Star, just like the cartoon.

0:07.5

And you grew up watching that, didn't you?

0:09.1

Oh yeah, it was awesome, if you were six years old anyway, it really doesn't hold up so well.

0:13.3

I'm really curious, how did they pull a Firestar in a kids cartoon?

0:16.4

I mean, her origin is so fucked up.

0:18.2

It's like the Thomas Hardy novel of superhero comics.

0:20.4

What?

0:21.4

No, it's not?

0:22.4

Really? The stuff with Emma Frost systematically socially isolating her and gaslighting her into thinking her powers are out of control?

0:28.0

What are you talking about? Firestar's origin is a pretty vanilla anti-bullying story.

0:32.0

Some popular girls frame her for

0:33.9

stealing a trophy or something. Wait what? Is that before or after she's at the

0:38.1

Massachusetts Academy? She's in generic public high school. They must have added the

0:41.9

Massachusetts Academy stuff when they

0:43.1

decided to bring her into the comics. Okay because in the comic, Emma convinces Firestar

0:47.0

and Firestar's dad that she'll help Firestar control her powers and then she

0:49.9

spends years socially isolating her and grooming her to be totally

0:52.7

dependent and freakishly loyal. Okay that is definitely not from the

0:55.8

cartoon. In Spider-Man and his amazing friends Xavier pretty much finds her

0:58.8

and takes her in right away. There's a super awkward reunion episode and

1:02.2

Cyclops's voice is incredibly grating.

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